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		<title>By: Access</title>
		<link>http://www.calvinshub.com/2009/06/how-do-facebook-game-developers-earn-money/comment-page-1/#comment-638447</link>
		<dc:creator>Access</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 05:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F*ckin? awesome issues here. I?m very glad to peer your article. Thanks so much and i am looking ahead to touch you. Will you kindly drop me a e-mail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F*ckin? awesome issues here. I?m very glad to peer your article. Thanks so much and i am looking ahead to touch you. Will you kindly drop me a e-mail?</p>
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		<title>By: Angele Freud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angele Freud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 18:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a reader of this blog for ages. Keep up the excellent work you are doing here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a reader of this blog for ages. Keep up the excellent work you are doing here.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
		<link>http://www.calvinshub.com/2009/06/how-do-facebook-game-developers-earn-money/comment-page-1/#comment-251102</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 01:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uhh....  nope i haven&#039;t. ill check it out. so you earn facebook money from what exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhh&#8230;.  nope i haven&#8217;t. ill check it out. so you earn facebook money from what exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: migors</title>
		<link>http://www.calvinshub.com/2009/06/how-do-facebook-game-developers-earn-money/comment-page-1/#comment-250779</link>
		<dc:creator>migors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever heard about Facebook Hyper Traffic method to earn much more money on Facebook without any knowledge of programming or advertising? I&#039;ll share this book with you too:

Part 1 - http://www.filesonic.com/file/210488682

Part 2 - http://www.filesonic.com/file/210449101

P.S. No personal website required and this really works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever heard about Facebook Hyper Traffic method to earn much more money on Facebook without any knowledge of programming or advertising? I&#8217;ll share this book with you too:</p>
<p>Part 1 &#8211; <a href="http://www.filesonic.com/file/210488682" rel="nofollow">http://www.filesonic.com/file/210488682</a></p>
<p>Part 2 &#8211; <a href="http://www.filesonic.com/file/210449101" rel="nofollow">http://www.filesonic.com/file/210449101</a></p>
<p>P.S. No personal website required and this really works!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S</title>
		<link>http://www.calvinshub.com/2009/06/how-do-facebook-game-developers-earn-money/comment-page-1/#comment-75308</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah.. nice reference. Thanks. I guess that was a while ago... Still making a killing off of Poker Chips no doubt, but they have really diversified their revenue streams since then. Today, they are probably making more off of poker chips by the raw numbers (total amount of dollars) but less by a percentage of their total revenue.

In a perfect (or even ethically sound) world the bit about Zynga buying a well done game would be true... sadly, Zynga is far more likely to simply rip you off and copy your game, changing little more than the title. (Like they did to &quot;Mob Wars&quot; with their own &quot;Mafia Wars&quot; ... Background: http://techcrunch.com/2009/02/14/mob-wars-creator-sues-zynga-for-copyright-infringement/ ) Well, they will change the title and pepper your idea with their own evil little scams to spread their games virally (why do you think they dominate the most popular apps on FB Games? Surely it is not because these &quot;games&quot; are any fun.... hehehe).

Luckily there are other big players emerging in the FB Game market. Playdom is a new face, EA is a gaming mainstay that is taking a stab at the FB market, Big Fish games has ported one of their classic PC Games to FB... and we can only expect more and more of the same from some of the established players in the Gaming industry. This is good for the FB Game user but bad for the un-funded, starry-eyed youngster who wants to put their quaint little 3 level adventure game on FB in hopes of becoming a millionaire. That&#039;s what Kongregate is for... where &quot;millionaire&quot; is replaced by &quot;kinda popular kid on a gaming network who made $40 last year from Google Ad revenue share&quot;.

Lest my negativity be misconstrued, I did not mean to discourage the right team with a bright idea and a great game from entering the market and making a killing... there&#039;s ALWAYS room for that kind of play. The market needs that stuff to keep the big guys on their toes. I was just hoping to discourage the &quot;quick buck&quot; thinkers from trying to put forth their pitiful spam-machine and making it that much harder for us to find a quality experience within the Facebook app catalog... that is the stuff that the big players are counting on to bolster their own images (and profits).

So if your idea is bad-ass, and you are passionate and serious... by all means, go out there and bring it! But if you think you can put together the &quot;next big thing&quot; in a weekend and start making boatloads of cash by forcing everyone to invite 10 friends... then it&#039;s time to go back to the drawing board shortly after returning to reality. I repeat... no such thing as easy money. Money is really really hard to make a lot of. And a rule of thumb , as cliche as it sounds it&#039;s true: it takes money to make money. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.. nice reference. Thanks. I guess that was a while ago&#8230; Still making a killing off of Poker Chips no doubt, but they have really diversified their revenue streams since then. Today, they are probably making more off of poker chips by the raw numbers (total amount of dollars) but less by a percentage of their total revenue.</p>
<p>In a perfect (or even ethically sound) world the bit about Zynga buying a well done game would be true&#8230; sadly, Zynga is far more likely to simply rip you off and copy your game, changing little more than the title. (Like they did to &#8220;Mob Wars&#8221; with their own &#8220;Mafia Wars&#8221; &#8230; Background: <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2009/02/14/mob-wars-creator-sues-zynga-for-copyright-infringement/" rel="nofollow">http://techcrunch.com/2009/02/14/mob-wars-creator-sues-zynga-for-copyright-infringement/</a> ) Well, they will change the title and pepper your idea with their own evil little scams to spread their games virally (why do you think they dominate the most popular apps on FB Games? Surely it is not because these &#8220;games&#8221; are any fun&#8230;. hehehe).</p>
<p>Luckily there are other big players emerging in the FB Game market. Playdom is a new face, EA is a gaming mainstay that is taking a stab at the FB market, Big Fish games has ported one of their classic PC Games to FB&#8230; and we can only expect more and more of the same from some of the established players in the Gaming industry. This is good for the FB Game user but bad for the un-funded, starry-eyed youngster who wants to put their quaint little 3 level adventure game on FB in hopes of becoming a millionaire. That&#8217;s what Kongregate is for&#8230; where &#8220;millionaire&#8221; is replaced by &#8220;kinda popular kid on a gaming network who made $40 last year from Google Ad revenue share&#8221;.</p>
<p>Lest my negativity be misconstrued, I did not mean to discourage the right team with a bright idea and a great game from entering the market and making a killing&#8230; there&#8217;s ALWAYS room for that kind of play. The market needs that stuff to keep the big guys on their toes. I was just hoping to discourage the &#8220;quick buck&#8221; thinkers from trying to put forth their pitiful spam-machine and making it that much harder for us to find a quality experience within the Facebook app catalog&#8230; that is the stuff that the big players are counting on to bolster their own images (and profits).</p>
<p>So if your idea is bad-ass, and you are passionate and serious&#8230; by all means, go out there and bring it! But if you think you can put together the &#8220;next big thing&#8221; in a weekend and start making boatloads of cash by forcing everyone to invite 10 friends&#8230; then it&#8217;s time to go back to the drawing board shortly after returning to reality. I repeat&#8230; no such thing as easy money. Money is really really hard to make a lot of. And a rule of thumb , as cliche as it sounds it&#8217;s true: it takes money to make money. <img src='http://www.calvinshub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Calvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are absolutely right, no point in doing games that are not well thought of or half-baked. what you can probably do is just create a unique game that and market it well enough that it will make the big Zynga to just buy your company off. 

the 75 percent cant be found on this &lt;a href=&quot;http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/08/facebook-platform-developers-could-see-500m-in-revenue-this-year/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;. Just search for &quot;75 percent&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are absolutely right, no point in doing games that are not well thought of or half-baked. what you can probably do is just create a unique game that and market it well enough that it will make the big Zynga to just buy your company off. </p>
<p>the 75 percent cant be found on this <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/08/facebook-platform-developers-could-see-500m-in-revenue-this-year/" rel="nofollow">link</a>. Just search for &#8220;75 percent&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S</title>
		<link>http://www.calvinshub.com/2009/06/how-do-facebook-game-developers-earn-money/comment-page-1/#comment-66854</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 01:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;75% of Zynga’s revenue is from the sale of poker chips!&quot;

I do not think this is correct. Where are you getting your numbers/information?  Plus, Zynga&#039;s profits (even as of the writing of this post) are WAY higher than that, actually. 

People reading this blog post should realize that there is no such thing as &quot;easy money&quot;, creating a valuable Facebook game/application requires a lot of work and that it takes money to make money. If you are not an experienced developer you can forget about it. The competition will simply steal your idea and execute on it far better than you could have ever hoped (and far quicker, too) ... and you will have little to no recourse. 

Better to just sit back and be fascinated by it all than to try and jump in to the fray and flood Facebook with low quality apps/games. You won&#039;t make any money and you will only succeed in polluting the already murky library of apps. So I repeat... do not make a Facebook application if you are not a developer. If you ARE a developer... think long and hard about it and don&#039;t try to copy someone else&#039;s game, they will have already made it better than you can (Even if your mom disagrees and thinks your&#039;s is better, it&#039;s not). If all of that does not discourage you then who knows, you might have a shot! Good luck... but please keep all these points in mind when deciding to enter this market.

P.S. The ads on the side of Facebook that you see are Facebook&#039;s own ads... not the developers... and the developers do not see a penny of that revenue regardless of how often they are clicked. Developers must find their OWN ways to monetize their applications and these ways must abide by the Facebook Terms of Use... so if you think you will run your own banner/google ads in your Facebook Game, think again. That&#039;s not allowed.  Like i said, no such thing as &quot;Easy Money&quot; or else we would all be rich! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;75% of Zynga’s revenue is from the sale of poker chips!&#8221;</p>
<p>I do not think this is correct. Where are you getting your numbers/information?  Plus, Zynga&#8217;s profits (even as of the writing of this post) are WAY higher than that, actually. </p>
<p>People reading this blog post should realize that there is no such thing as &#8220;easy money&#8221;, creating a valuable Facebook game/application requires a lot of work and that it takes money to make money. If you are not an experienced developer you can forget about it. The competition will simply steal your idea and execute on it far better than you could have ever hoped (and far quicker, too) &#8230; and you will have little to no recourse. </p>
<p>Better to just sit back and be fascinated by it all than to try and jump in to the fray and flood Facebook with low quality apps/games. You won&#8217;t make any money and you will only succeed in polluting the already murky library of apps. So I repeat&#8230; do not make a Facebook application if you are not a developer. If you ARE a developer&#8230; think long and hard about it and don&#8217;t try to copy someone else&#8217;s game, they will have already made it better than you can (Even if your mom disagrees and thinks your&#8217;s is better, it&#8217;s not). If all of that does not discourage you then who knows, you might have a shot! Good luck&#8230; but please keep all these points in mind when deciding to enter this market.</p>
<p>P.S. The ads on the side of Facebook that you see are Facebook&#8217;s own ads&#8230; not the developers&#8230; and the developers do not see a penny of that revenue regardless of how often they are clicked. Developers must find their OWN ways to monetize their applications and these ways must abide by the Facebook Terms of Use&#8230; so if you think you will run your own banner/google ads in your Facebook Game, think again. That&#8217;s not allowed.  Like i said, no such thing as &#8220;Easy Money&#8221; or else we would all be rich! <img src='http://www.calvinshub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Facebook is a worldwide phenomenon. With its millions of registered users also comes millions of great money-making opportunities. Build a massive list of targeted buyers and you can be making easy cash in no time. Invest your time learning how to make money with Facebook and it will be a time well spent. If Facebook developers can earn tons of cash, no reason that anybody can&#039;t. Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Facebook is a worldwide phenomenon. With its millions of registered users also comes millions of great money-making opportunities. Build a massive list of targeted buyers and you can be making easy cash in no time. Invest your time learning how to make money with Facebook and it will be a time well spent. If Facebook developers can earn tons of cash, no reason that anybody can&#8217;t. Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: cris</title>
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		<dc:creator>cris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm.. ako ba yung sa resto city? hahaha! pati nga sa farm town napa bili ako the first time i started playing. hehe

&lt;strong&gt;calvin: hahaha. so ano lalaruin mo farm town, barn buddy or happy farm? sina gena happy farm eh.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm.. ako ba yung sa resto city? hahaha! pati nga sa farm town napa bili ako the first time i started playing. hehe</p>
<p><strong>calvin: hahaha. so ano lalaruin mo farm town, barn buddy or happy farm? sina gena happy farm eh.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: reyane</title>
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		<dc:creator>reyane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow... san ba pwedeng mag apply as programmer ng games nila? ...... lol

&lt;strong&gt;calvin: hehe gawa ka na lang sarili mo para walang kahati. :)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230; san ba pwedeng mag apply as programmer ng games nila? &#8230;&#8230; lol</p>
<p><strong>calvin: hehe gawa ka na lang sarili mo para walang kahati. <img src='http://www.calvinshub.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </strong></p>
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